Why the Jehovah's Witnesses lost their funding in Norway
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Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid
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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
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Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid
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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
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Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid
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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
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avoidjw
An analysis of the deceptive words of Morris and Pedersen is provided here:
https://avoidjw.org/world/jehovahs-witnesses-norway/That is a must read for everyone. Great analysis on what's really going on between the Watchtower Society and the Norwegian Government. Great deception on the Watchtower Society's part blaming the Norwegian Government for ''religious persecution.''
As you stated, it's all about the money.
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WT Ruining Members' Futures
by HiddlesWife inwhat i mean by the title of this thread is what has happened to a relative of mine, one who is really upset about this factor:.
this relative is a distant cousin on my mother's side of the family.
she studied as a child and got baptized at 14 1/2 years old.
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LongHairGal
I’m sorry for her and I am sure there are many Witnesses in the same predicament. She did ALL that work and knocked herself out for a handful of wishes.
Exactly! This was her investment. She was happy in what she was doing! Paradise earth was her return for her investment. We all wasted years and got nothing in return.
HiddlesWife
Now, throughout the course of time--because this all occurred since the later 1980s--she became an RP plus got involved in other VOLUNTARY Borg activities [Need-Greater F.S., Unassigned Territories, various Kingdom Hall Constructions, CAH Tour Guiding, cooking food for various Pioneer Schools, getting parts on her cong's service meetings, CAs and twice in RC dramas, to name A LOT!]. She was happy for a long while (her popularity was skyrocketing to a certain degree as well).
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Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid
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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
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DECEMBER 2, 2022
GLOBAL NEWS2022 Governing Body Update #8
So, Tony...Just go away. It's not about the money...or is it? Let's see who wins this fight!
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Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid
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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
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https://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/2020-04-24-31#KAPITTEL_2
§ 6.Basis for refusing grants
If a faith or belief community, or individuals acting on behalf of society, perpetrating violence or coercion, making threats, violating children's rights, violates statutory discrimination bans or otherwise seriously violates the rights and freedoms of others, society can be denied grants or grants can be curtailed. Grants may also be denied or shortened if the community encourages or grants support for violations mentioned in this paragraph.
'' Brothers and sisters, let me be clear and tell the truth for once. Norway refuses to give us $1.6 million dollars, not because of religious discrimination against the Jehovah's Witnesses, but because it states in their documents that ''violating children's rights'' is one of many reasons why they refuse to give us grant money. Just think about it! We baptize 10 year old's and own them the rest of their lives. The Society refuse to give these children ''human rights'' after the are disfellowshipped or disassociate. They have no recourse, but to come back to Jehovah. We have the freedom to take away children's rights. The Norwegian Government has no authority to take away our religious rights, nor refuse to give the Society $1.6 million dollars."
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Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid
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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
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https://www.nrk.no/norge/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstotte-for-2021-1.15830483
NOK 16 million
According to an overview from the Ministry of Children and Family Affairs, 12,686 grant-counting members were registered in Jehovah's Witnesses in 2021. According to the State Manager, they will now miss NOK 16 million in support.
- The Jehovah’s Witnesses in Norway According to the Norwegian government’s Ministry of Children and Family Affairs, in 2021, there were 12,686 registered Jehovah’s Witnesses in the country. That number meant taxpayers were on the hook to give the Witnesses more than NOK 16 million (roughly $1,778,793 in U.S. dollars) in support.
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Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid
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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
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https://onlysky.media/hemant-mehta/norway-will-no-longer-fund-the-jehovahs-witnesses/
In a move that’s both long overdue and shocking, the Norwegian government said it would no longer provide funding to the Jehovah’s Witnesses because of the religious sect’s cult-like practices.
Norway’s odd relationship with religion
Norway, which has a national Church but no longer has a national religion, is one of those countries where religion is literally supported by taxpayers; the more members you have, the more money your preferred religious (or Humanist) organization receives. Any “religious” group with 50 registered members are allowed to apply for state subsidies, and more than 800 groups receive that kind of funding.
The law is very open regarding the kinds of religious or non-religious groups that can receive that money. However there are some lines in the sand:
If a religious or philosophical community, or individuals acting on behalf of the community, commits violence or coercion, makes threats, violates children’s rights, violates statutory discrimination prohibitions or in other ways seriously violates the rights and freedoms of others, society may be denied grants or grants may be suspended. Grants may also be refused or reduced if society encourages or provides support for violations mentioned in this section.
Religious or philosophical communities that accept grants from states that do not respect the right to freedom of religion or belief may be denied grants.
That makes sense. A group that endorses violence shouldn’t get taxpayer money, nor should any group hurting children or violating human rights. Sure, there are atheists who might argue that any form of religious indoctrination is child abuse, but these rules are theoretically limited to things that are irrefutable and not up for debate.
More specifically, groups that receive those subsidies can’t force people to remain members. They can’t ban interactions with non-members. They can’t make children pledge a lifelong commitment to them. If they cross those boundaries, then their groups might lose that government funding.
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Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid
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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
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08:20 27.1.Kristoffer SolbergJehovah's Witnesses Denied State Aid
The faith community of Jehovah's Witnesses denied state aid for 2021 because of its exclusionary practices, the State Manager in Oslo and Viken has decided.
In a message on their web pages the State Manager writes that they have found several violations of the religious community law of Jehovah's Witnesses.
– After receiving notifications from former members regarding the exclusion and omission of members, the Ministry of Children and Family Affairs has asked the State Manager in Oslo and Viken to review Jehovah's Witnesses' own statements and publications. In this review, the State Manager has revealed several violations of the religious community law, according to this Our Country.
The exclusion practice means that members are denied contact with registered members. This is what the State Manager violates the right to free cancellation and section 2 of the Religious Law.
– The faith community also opens to exclude baptized minors. This means that children can be excluded if they break the rules of religious community. We believe this is negative social control and violates children's rights, writes the State Manager.
– We have considered the offenses as systematic and intentional, and have therefore chosen to refuse grants, writes the State Manager. (NTB)
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Anthony Morris responds to Norway's intention to remove the JWs as a recognized religion. ( It's all about the money folks! ) -
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Did it ever become unbearable to attend another Kingdom Hall meeting?
by RULES & REGULATIONS init's becoming unbearable for me to attend another meeting.
i dread coming to the weekly sunday public talk and watchtower study.
the talks are ''repeats'' of a ''repeat.
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The worst part for me was the half wits that always needed to hear themselves talk. Pointless comment after pointless comment. Just the pure narcissism of it was the worst part for me.
